Okay but didn’t somebody make a compilation post of like 4 completely unrelated news articles interviewing ladies over 100 asking “How do you do it?” and every single lady said some version “no men.”
mizumanta said:
@senri-i You talk about invalidating women’s experiences on misogyny, but here you are doing just that to men and the misandry they face.
Men have an incredibly tough time being allowed to speak up about their experiences, to the point that very clear systematic inequality goes completely ignored merely because it happens to men.
You dont care about sexism or inequalities. You care about women. There’s a difference.
mizumanta said:
@senri-i and you think men were…just allowed to be single?
Once a man got over a certain age, if aan couldn’t give children, if a man didn’t make enough money, if a man wasn’t handsome, if a man didn’t fight in a war, etc.
And you can try to blame men alone (as is the usual response), but women, half of society, often participated in the shaming, if not spearheaded some of it (as shown above).
mizumanta said:
@senri-i abd- I cannot stress this enough. You have NO idea what men did to get married.
Men would take on dangerous jobs for money.
Men would kill themselves studying or working to make money to seem appealing.
Men would literally join wars because women shamed their masculinity (regardless of if they had a legitimate reason not to fight). Look up “the white girls”.
All so that they could be appealing to women and get married.
mizumanta said:
@senri-i I am not “invalidating women”.
If “women” are making generalizing (and false) statements about what men do and don’t have to deal with, I when they needlessly gender issues, and thus gender the activism/solution that may come, i am not being unfair or sexist or whatever for disagreeing.
Not everything a woman says should receive automatic protection from disagreement.
mizumanta said:
@senri-i No. They arent. ‘Women jobs’ like psychology? Animal care? No.
I can make the same argument that male dominated jobs like sewage work and fishing are looked down upon (both of which are insanely dangerous and don’t don’t pay well).
You only see bad things when they happen to you, which makes you oblivious of the exact same argument when it targets a different group. Have empathy
mizumanta said:
@senri-i actually, yes. Men were expected to get married and have children. In almost every culture. Chinese, English, Spanish, Japanese, etc. They were expected to find someone.
Those that didn’t were seen as inferior to other men, as well as to women.
Achievements could also be lessened simply for being unmarried.
I mean…name one president that wasn’t married.
senri-i said:
@mizumanta but you are so interested in invalidating women defending themselves that it makes you too hurt someone responds to the misogyny of that remark about a woman who, born almost 100 years ago, managed to live independently and have an interesting life.
senri-i said:
@mizumanta Nothing about this monologue fragment is about stopping you or anyone from protesting against society’s disregard for singleness, indeed it’s part of that.
senri-i said:
@mizumanta These are not isolated personal experiences. “Women” jobs are still considered inferior, they earn less, they are “the wife of”, they are the trophies, girls toys still encourage being a mum/ taking care of / being a beauty, they are still the ones that end up caregiving and taking care of the house labours…
senri-i said:
@mizumanta Oh yeah men have historically had marriage as almost the only option in their lives because of being considered inferior and all the oppression and this still affects today’s world.
mizumanta said: @senri-i You talk about invalidating women’s experiences on misogyny, but here you are doing just that to men and the misandry they face. Men have an incredibly tough time being allowed to speak up about their experiences, to the point that very clear systematic inequality goes completely ignored merely because it happens to men. You dont care about sexism or inequalities. You care about women. There’s a difference.
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senri-i said:
@mizumanta but you are so interested in invalidating women defending themselves that it makes you too hurt someone responds to the misogyny of that remark about a woman who, born almost 100 years ago, managed to live independently and have an interesting life. 
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